The unseen skill that grows partnerships and revenue

What if every growth deal you closed started with giving instead of asking?

Scott Kelly, founder of Black Dog Venture Partners, joins Phil to share his hard-won lessons from three decades in deal-making—from Wall Street to startup boardrooms. If you’ve ever wondered why some partnerships thrive while others implode, this episode is a masterclass in the art of going first, building trust, and playing the long game.

You’ll walk away with:
✅ A battle-tested framework for vetting potential partners (and walking away from bad ones)
✅ Scripts and signals to look for in first meetings
✅ Mindset shifts that will change how you approach growth forever

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Key Insights:

✅ Scott Kelly has over 30 years of experience in deal-making.

✅ Building relationships is crucial for successful partnerships.

✅ Trust but verify is essential in partnerships.

✅ Entrepreneurs should focus on relationships, not just transactions.

✅ Partnerships can help fill gaps in skills and resources.

✅ Patience is key in business and partnerships.

✅ Clear communication and managing expectations are vital.

✅ Reciprocity in partnerships leads to long-term success.

✅ Social media has changed how we approach networking.

✅ Partnerships provide opportunities for scaling businesses.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Black Dog Venture Partners

03:01 The Journey of Scott Kelly

05:56 Understanding Deal Making

08:49 The Importance of Partnerships

11:48 Building Successful Partnerships

14:46 Lessons Learned in Business

17:45 Navigating Difficult Partnerships

20:58 The Value of Relationships

23:50 Rapid Fire Questions

26:39 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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